Conversation with Barbara Marx Hubbard

In Conversation with Barbara Marx Hubbard and Barnet Bain.  Excerpts from Barbara Marx Hubbard’s Regenopause: Evolving Masculine and Feminine Webinar. This extensive interview is spread out over six pages – it was so good, I had to publish the whole thing. Enjoy! Use the page links at the bottom to navigate to the next page. Barbara: And before we get going, I just want to introduce Barnet – so he can say a few words about how you feel about being in the chrysalis with me and all these people, probably mostly women? [Laughs] Barnet: Well, you know, right now we couldn’t be in more of a chrysalis. We’re so confined, and it’s so beautiful in here and cozy in here. [Barbara laughs] We have talked so long and so deeply and so blissfully about what it is to be in the chrysalis, from this man’s perspective it is a highly, highly dynamic experience. There’s nothing passive about it. And very often we hear people referring to this shift of paradigms, and we hear it referred to in so many different ways. But very often we hear about it as a passive experience, as something that happens to us. And that has not been my experience as a man in the chrysalis, which I refer to it in our conversations as the liminal state. It is the state of ‘between’. It’s not what was, and it is not what will be. But I experience myself as ‘not what was’. I am aware of what was. And I also am aware that I am not yet what will be. But I am in a very dynamic, dynamic practice, which at this point rises to the level of artisanship. I am discovering technique. And I invite you all to come with me a little bit as we explore the tools of technique that are used to fire up the creative, the space-filling component, the art-making component of what we will be, what we are birthing – the world waiting to be born through us. And these have to do with, from my perspective, certain energies that are primarily feminine. Now, when I speak of feminine energies or masculine energies, I’m not talking about gender here. I’m talking about the idealized feminine energy and the idealized masculine energy. These are the energies that need to be refined and remembered in men and women alike. The masculine energy: this is the energy that fills spaces. This is the creator energy. The idealized feminine energy: these are the energies that conceive even the possibility of something. It creates the potential for something, the spaciousness, the bubble that is blown “whwhwh” to create the womb for that which is yet to be born. And what is born, what it is that fills that space, is filled as a creation of masculine idealized energy.  It works...